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The Rumor Mill - August 08,2000 by JoseQ
Everyone I know has asked me about it, so I have to deliver. Here's a new edition of The Rumor Mill, as usually posted here at EmuViews. While I have still to re-establish permanent communications with some of my agents, I did manage to get my hands on a few reports that may be of interest to you. So read on to find out what to expect on the emulation scene's near future! Here's what I've gathered thus far...
I have gotten many requests asking about EmuDX, that arcade 'enhancing' technology which was progressing quite fast early in the year. Well, it did get onto slow gear and after reading some mysterious comments posted on their website, you would think that the project was dead. Those messages mysteriously dissapeared not so long ago and the site was reverted to the previous April 14 update. Qmeister has since then, found out that EmuDX is very well alive. Although still in low gear, everything seems to indicate that a new release will happen eventually (not soon!). And while some of the details were very impressive, I'd rather not disclose them until they harden up a little. However, it is very encouraging to know that the project is moving along, and that we will be rewarded when the time is right.
More news arrive this week from that Sega Model One Game emulator we came to know as SMOG. While it's probably not enough information to warrant an update to the site, it sure was very exciting when the report came in. Thanks to some rare documentation, acquired via help from MAMEDEV members, V60 emulation of the system has progressed quite nicely. The author may soon receive welcomed help from an extra programmer to work on the CPU core. However, a real life distraction will kick off in a few days thus the project would progress a bit slower for a period of time. Just remember this is a Sega Model One emulator, not to be confused with recent shots of a Sega Model Two emulator being shown around...
Speaking of Sega hardwares... Remember that Sega System32 emulator that was shown around a while ago running games like "Golden Axe 2" for instance? Well, I've just gotten word that it may be released in it's latest beta form (that is, not updated for a while). However, the project is very much discontinued and should not see any active development unfortunately. More Sega hardware rumors? Well, I've got some more, but I will save it for the next edition of the Rumor Mill, and see what else I can dig on that.
I'm certain that many of you are wondering about the happenings behind NeoRageX, or the Rage team for that matter. Yours truly has no idea about what they have or had planned since they're very secretive about new projects, but one thing I can tell you is that we will all be happy when they deliver.
Well, this being the first Rumor Mill in quite a while, I think I will cut it right here and leave some for possibly next week? I hope that my birds start reporting regularly again and that this can be once again a regular feature here at EmuViews. Thanks for reading!

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Name: Mtemisan Posted: Thursday, August 10, 2000 - (18:08)
Subject: Cool
From:
I really enjoyed this section and the subsequent posts.

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Name: [D]J Posted: Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - (3:44)
Subject: Yeah... (more)
From:
Yeah.. what JoseQ says is true, that System 32 emu will be probably released as it is soon... I am/was beta tester of it and I suggested the author to release it in its form long time ago and he agreed with me.

The emu still has many problems, no sound at all, no joystick support, no full screen support, some color and priority problems, only 1 player support (I think at least, not 100% sure about it, long time since I used the beta last time..), some bugs here and there and is still a bit slow if you got a slow system so don't expect a great experience of game playing but I think it would be a shame to not release it and give "others" the possibilty to be known to the world as "the first to have emulated the System 32 hardware".

You know... many still think that this emulator doesn't exist and is vaporware (as all the unreleased things) but this anonymous author was actually the first "to do it" more than 1 year ago so we have to be grateful to him.

It's about 1 month since I've talked to him so I dunno if he is going to release it or he changed idea but let me say that it's a real shame that the project was discontinued as I would love to play Outrunners on my PC :((

Anyways the good news is that HE discontinued this project to work on a new emu (as he always do hehe, he doesn't like to finich things)... and it's another Sega system noone emulated yet... and it looks very impressive! So stay tuned and pay a visit to my site www.emuforce.com sometme as if I get the authorization from the author to release some of the screenshots that I have I'll post them (he asked me to not release anything for a while so..) :)


[D]J
Editor in Chief
(www.emuforce.com)

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Name: Stein Posted: Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - (0:13)
Subject: Monaco GP??????
From:
Mike green? hello? the guys from the monaco GP emu-sim project turned it over to mike from emudx and absolutly nothing has happened or been said? AND the Monaco Home page is no longer there?

will this ever see the light of day?

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 Name: Mike Green Posted: Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - (8:54)
Subject: Re: Monaco GP??????
From:
>Mike green? hello? the guys from the monaco GP emu-sim project turned it over to mike from emudx and absolutly nothing has happened or been said?

The project was turned over to me, and something HAS been done, although time has not been a good friend of mine recently..

>AND the Monaco Home page is no longer there?
>
>will this ever see the light of day?

who can tell? ;-)

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Name: trzy Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (22:04)
Subject: Model 2, Model 1
From:
Sixtoe: Sega did not do any "fine tuning" to turn Model 1 into Model 2.
Model 2 is an entirely different piece of hardware designed from scratch.

I don't believe it bears any major similarities to their previous hardware. The CPU alone is quite a large difference.

Sega had a 5-step plan which would culminate in the delivery of movie-quality games. This was supposed to happen with Model 5. However, it seems that they have been sidetracked with the Dreamcast, Naomi, and corporate restructuring and this plan has probably been scrapped -- the dwindling arcade industry isn't helping either.

Shame... Model 4 and Model 5 (with movie image-quality) would have been amazing with Sega's creativity behind them.

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Name: Cracken Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (20:14)
Subject: Sega!!!
From:
I hope to see any new SEGA stuff emulated soon. Specially System32.

Spider-Man anybody??

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 Name: The Crimson King Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (23:39)
Subject: Re: Sega!!!
From:
I'd KILL to be able to play Spiderman. Me and friends would allways pump quaters into it at the local Wal-Mart... we never could beat it, we were to poor!!!
Screw csp2 emulation, give me system 32!!!

>I hope to see any new SEGA stuff emulated soon. Specially System32.
>
>Spider-Man anybody??
>

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 Name: Eddie McGraydi Posted: Friday, August 11, 2000 - (23:42)
Subject: Re: Re: Sega!!!
From:
Hey man , i will commit a suicide just to play
spiderman again , my brother all day long
asking me to search it in the web i
can't find it if u do find ,
please...please..
please....tell me.

email:brianjoe78@yahoo.com
bye. goodluck .

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Name: JoseQ Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (20:05)
Subject: Good News
From:
It seems this Rumor Mill was all we needed to make the feature a steady one once again.. Next week's edition is virtually guaranteed to happen with even some possible exclusive shots. =)

JoseQ

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Name: bwb Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (19:02)
Subject: ya
From:
System32 and Model 1 might have the same cpu. for more info see the hardware section at www.emuhq.com/smog

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Name: Bud Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (18:56)
Subject: Retrocade & Hive?
From:
Whatever happened to these emu's?

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 Name: Anonymous23 Posted: Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - (7:00)
Subject: Re: Retrocade & Hive?
From:
>Whatever happened to these emu's?

Let me try to answer ya.
I do not know really what´s up with HIVE,
But it´s well known that retrocade´s gone cos
the author got stressed with mame fans.

For me, mame is just a snowball that keeps rolling,
rolling, and doubling its size every launching.

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 Name: Phil Stroffolino Posted: Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - (15:20)
Subject: Re: Re: Retrocade & Hive?
From:
>it´s well known that retrocade´s gone cos
>the author got stressed with mame fans.

The lack of updates for Retrocade has absolutely nothing to do with MAME or "MAME Fans." It's just lack of time/interest-level on the part of Retrocade developers.

What is it with people making up strange reasons for projects ending? To me it's like savages blaming a lack of rain on angry gods.

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Name: MSoft Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (18:27)
Subject: Sega Hardware
From:
Ok System32 has NEC V60/NEC V70. Sega Model 1 has NEC V60 + 4 fujitsu TGP co-processors. Sega ST-V Titan has the same hardware like Sega Saturn. Sega Model 2 has i960 and Model 3 PowerPC.

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Name: MarkL Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (18:13)
Subject: more Sega news?
From:
that's good news. Possibles?

32X
Mega-CD
Saturn
STV
C2 driver
System16/Afterburner hardware games
or other???

Damn I love the Rumor Mill - it gives us all hope!

MarkL

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 Name: Majestic12 Posted: Wednesday, August 9, 2000 - (11:24)
Subject: Re: more Sega news?
From:
system24 would be cool but I don't know if any good dumps exist.

>that's good news. Possibles?
>
>32X
>Mega-CD
>Saturn
>STV
>C2 driver
>System16/Afterburner hardware games
>or other???
>
>Damn I love the Rumor Mill - it gives us all hope!
>
>MarkL
>

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Name: Sixtoe Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (18:06)
Subject: System32+model1
From:
Model1 uses the system32 board with a few additional chips for the polys, the model 1 was a prototype board, and wasnt actually meant to be released, but the put out vf and vr on it, got it fine tuned, and it went on to become model 2 which had about 30-40 games for it.

Six

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Name: xtr3eme Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (17:46)
Subject: System32
From:
System32 emulation makes my nipples hard!

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Name: Some Guy Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (17:43)
Subject: Neoragex
From:
I'd just like to point out that there were rumours floating around (and by now almost certainly facts) that the recent countdown on the rage site was just a 'joke' to 'get back' on the emu community. This is highly regretable and an unfair punishment for those who were interested in neogeo emulation and neoragex in particular. I believe I speak for many when I express my profound disappointment for Janne and Anders' 'joke' which if indeed was such has certainly not been funny, as it hit those who were actually interested in their work.
Not every emu-fan worships MAME (though it is the number one emulation related project) and surely one only deserves as much respect as it is willing to give.


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 Name: Atila Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (18:49)
Subject: Re: Neoragex
From:
>I'd just like to point out that there were rumours floating around (and by now almost certainly facts) that the recent countdown on the rage site was just a 'joke' to 'get back' on the emu community.

This is not true. There were some very severe personal problems, this should not be taken lightly.

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Name: trzy Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (17:26)
Subject: Re: all these Sega projects...
From:
System32 and Model 1 might have the same CPU, but I can't confirm it.

Model 1 and Model 2 do not have the same CPUs. Model 1 is based around an NEC V60 and the Model 2 is based around the Intel i960 (some older boards supposedly had i860 processors.)

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Name: anticupid Posted: Tuesday, August 8, 2000 - (17:09)
Subject: all these Sega projects...
From:
With my limited knowledge of the hardware involed it has come to my attention that System 32 and Model 1 games had processors in common as do Model 1 and Model 2 games. I am sure it would be a lot more benefical if all these projects worked together. Oh well just a pipe dream of mine.

ac.

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